I've been waiting to go on an elk hunt for 18 years. I was beyond excited to get to Silver Spur and start this adventure. I thought it was strange when we arrived to the lodge and Rick (owner/outfiter) spent no time with our group of four guys that just drove almost 32 hours to get there. I guess I expected a warm welcome and some time talking about hunting, looking at maps, etc. Deb was a very gracious host and made us lunch. She may have been the only positive part of this entire trip. Not only did Rick not spend any time communicating with us before the hunt, he informed us the day we got there that our drop camp location (Rabbit Point) had been changed. He said it was because our new camp location (Three Forks) gave us more space for our group of 8 to hunt. We found out the truth later. Rick's drop camp customers had been taking more elk than his guides. He moved two elderly men (who were paying for guides) to a new camp (Churchill) that was only four miles from Rabbit Point. He knew that previous hunters in Churchill were on the elk and that by moving these guided elderly gentlemen into Churchill that they would have a high chance of success, thus making his guided hunts look to have higher success rate than drop camps. Our camp, Three Forks, was where these older gentlemen were supposed to be hunting, by horseback. Rick knew that we were not on horseback and that the terrain at Three Forks was extremely more difficult than Churchill. Rick knew we would struggle and that by moving us he was only putting us at a disadvantage and making his guided hunts look more successful. Do the math though, the income he made from us 8 at drop camp was much more significant than two guided hunters yet we were given no support. Rick does not care about repeat customers, as we were told that many people return to camp very upset and Rick only laughs at them. In my opinion, the Idaho Dept of Fish and Game should pull his license as an outfitter for unethical business practices. He is an outright cheat and lier. He doesn't pay his guides and packers and lied to us about scouting. No person from Silver Spur scouted our camp for elk. Rick didn't even know that a several thousand acre forest fire was actively burning withing two miles from our camp. His response, "Elk go in there and roll in the soot and lick the stumps." It was red hot, smoking, with glowing coals, and elk would have died in there! Rick uses his hunters as scouts. We essentially paid upwards of $12,000 to let Rick know the elk were not in the area. He never once apologized or made an effort to assist us in ANY manner. We never saw one bull elk and never heard one bugle. Rick's suggestion was to get deep into the woods. Out of the 8 experienced hunters in camp, the minimum walked by any guy any day was approximately 6 miles. The most we walked in one day was 14.5 miles. That is per GPS for one guy! Multiply that times 8 and you can get a picture of how much ground we covered. On a personal note, I saw a mountain lion on our first day of hunting. I had him in the crosshairs at 30 yards. Didn't shoot because I didn't have the right tag. When we get back to the lodge Rick asks me why I didn't shoot the mountain lion and I respond with shock and say I didn't have the tag. He proceeds to tell me that he told me before we went out that my deer tag was also good for a mountain lion. Complete bold-faced lie! This was just salt in the wound. My personal belief is that we should be refunded partial money for a lack to fulfill his end of our contract. Please save yourself the stress and frustration and avoid this unethical con artist. Don't let your dream hunt turn into your vacation from hell like ours did.